SubversiveAesthetic aims to support, nurture and encourage photographers who create non-mainstream, challenging and subversive art, and to provide a space to share photography which may not be welcome in some general or mainstream photography and genre- or subject-specific groups.
What We Do
Thought-provoking. Stylish. Dark. Bizarre. Creative. Fascinating. Unusual. Memorable. Beautiful. Photography for grown-ups.
The group welcomes photographs that are considered to contain Mature Content as per DA's policies and are tagged as such. This includes artistically presented nudity, fetish themes, dark and challenging concepts, and simulated violence, injuries and gore. Please do not join or watch the group if any of those things offend or upset you.
What We Don't
The following guidelines can be difficult to explain precisely. Definitions and explanations will be updated with greater clarity and detail as that becomes possible. Please look at the gallery to gauge the kind of image that fits here.
We aren't into Page 3 style or Readers' Wives style glamour.
We aren't into the 'fetish' version of Page 3 or Readers' Wives style glamour either.
Photos with no concept or message beyond "Oh look, I have genitals" or "Oh look, I have feet" are not a good fit here.
Please no graveyards-just-because. The existence of a graveyard does not automatically mean horror, dark, alternative or subversive.
This isn't the place for humorous or comedic photography.
What We Definitely Don't
These are non-negotiable hard limits.
No violations of DA's policies. Whether or not you agree with the policies, they still apply and we still agree to abide by them as members of the site. Some FAQs and policies are clearer than others, but we aim to understand and apply them honestly and with the best of intentions rather than seeking loopholes.
No depictions of actual violence or suffering, human or animal. While this can be a valuable aspect of documentary photography, context is important and it is not appropriate to have war photography, for example, appearing next to theatrical fine art horror photography in a way that they could be perceived to be of the same genre.
All images must be completely your own with the exception of textures and other resources appropriately used in the context of digital darkroom work and similar processing techniques.
No models under the age of 18 or models intentionally styled to look under the age of 18 in nude, fetish, glamour, pin-up or any other sexually themed or suggestive imagery.
How To Join
Please read the following section before applying to join the group.
Please click the Join Our Group button to apply to join as a Member. All join requests will be reviewed by an admin who will look at your gallery to verify that you create the kind of photography that is suitable for the group.
If you would like to have an admin review your gallery before you apply to join, please send a note to the group (and be patient!).
If you haven't ventured into our kind of photography just yet but you intend to, you're welcome to +watch the group for a while and then apply to join later.
If you're interested in following group submissions but don't wish to submit, you can do this by +watching us.
Quality and Standards
It is notoriously difficult to describe what makes a high quality photo, especially with so many styles, techniques, equipment and materials in use in the photographic world.
With this in mind, we ask that whatever you do is obviously intentional. For example, there is a clear visual difference between accidentally underexposed and intentionally dark, or intentionally stark lighting and "I have no idea what I'm doing but I bought a flash".
It doesn't matter what camera you use and there are exceptions to every rule. For example, it is entirely possible to create a stunningly artistic photograph with a mobile phone in a mirror. It is also entirely possible to use that exact set-up and take a careless snapshot.
In the spirit of the group, you are encouraged to submit your experimental work providing it is created with artistic intent and creative vision.
How To Submit To The Gallery
The group is for PHOTOGRAPHY ONLY.
The gallery folders are set up to mirror DA's current photography gallery structure, which makes it really easy to know which folder to submit to. Simply choose the one that matches the category your photo is in on DA. For example, if you submitted your photo to DA in the Photography > People & Portraits > Artistic Nude category, place it in the Artistic Nude folder in the group's gallery.
Submissions are currently set at 3 per folder per week per person. This may change in future depending on the volume of submissions received and the activity in the group.
The Featured folder is not open for submissions. Photographs that exemplify the nature of the group will be placed here by admins.
Submissions are not automatically accepted. Each one will be reviewed by an admin prior to being accepted or declined. The group aims to be inclusive but if you've read all the other information here it will be clear to you already that it's not an "any and all photography" place.
If your submission is declined, please refer to the What We Don't and What We Definitely Don't sections. If you still don't understand why your submission was declined, please respond politely with a comment ON THE SUBMISSION IN YOUR MESSAGE CENTRE. Please do not comment on the group page.
If you find that your submissions are regularly being declined, it may be that this is not the group for you. That doesn't make you less of an artist or us less of a group. DA has thousands of groups so if this one isn't a good fit, you'll have no problem finding another one that is.
To avoid having yet more folders of photos that could be perfectly at home in our gallery, our Favourites are instead for useful things relevant to the nature of the group and the kind of art we create.
You are welcome to submit your own tutorials, features and application resources to the Favourites, as well as those created by other people.
All submissions to Favourites will be reviewd by an admin.
These can be hosted within the Resources & Stock Images gallery on DA, or posted as journals. They must be fully available on-site.
These can be individual and group journals where photography in keeping with the nature of this group is featured. Features submitted to Favourites MUST be completely, or at least primarily, photography.
Application Resources and Textures
Includes Lightroom presets and Photoshop actions as well as Textures. These MUST be hosted within the Resources & Stock Images gallery on DA and must be available directly from the site. Please do not submit anything that requires off-site downloads.
We are happy to affiliate with active groups which support emotive, challenging and non-mainstream art of any medium and genre, and the artists who create it.
We are not interested in affiliating with inactive groups or those with restrictions on Mature Content. We are also very unlikely to affiliate with groups whose name or main focus is on physical attributes or the size, colour or styling choices thereof (so no Big Boobs, Sexy Redheads or Shaven Bits groups thanks!) or with a tone that prioritises the experience and preference of the viewer over the creator (Beautiful People is cool, Hot Girls For You is not).
These FAQs may be useful when creating and sharing your photography in this group and beyond.
FAQ #220: What is Mature Content?
FAQ #554: Is my deviation Mature Content?
FAQ #199: How do I add Mature Content tag to my deviation?
FAQ #13: Does a Mature Content tag make it safe for me to submit whatever I want?
FAQ #305: Is posting 'Adult' oriented artwork alright if I censor it first?
FAQ #23: What are DeviantArt policies on nudity?
FAQ #565: You prohibit the submission of 'pornographic imagery'; what do you consider this to be?
FAQ #12: DeviantArt doesn't allow 'Hate Art', 'Hate Speech' or 'Hate Propaganda', what is this?
FAQ #7: What is the policy concerning photographs of corpses, cruelty or death?
FAQ #284: Can we submit photographs showing actual injury, self-harm and mutilation?
FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?
FAQ #303: I'm offended by something I saw on the website!